View source for AB Meeting/June 2014 Minutes

= Attendees =
* Larry Wikelius (Cavium) 
* James Bulpin, Mark Hinkle (Citrix) 
* Don D Dugger (Intel)
* Antony Messerli (Rackspace) 
* Konrad R Wilk, Daniel Kiper (Oracle)
* Ian Pratt (Bromium) 
* Michelle P Dominijanni (Verizon / Terremark)
* Brian Warner, Sarah Conway (Linux Foundation)

= Agenda =

== Action Updates ==

=== Xen + Libvirt support ===

{{Action|Lars}} Lars to send report from Hackathon discussion next week to help scope put scale of issue {{Tick}}

For details of gaps, see http://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2014-06/msg00106.html

Summarized, we are talking about the following gaps for libvirt + xen via libxl (xl)
#1: Live migration
#2: libxl has no support for task cancellation, which is something we need for good xen integration
#3: some improvements to machine types (some probably need to go into libvirt-qemu library)
#4: improved support for consoles (e.g. Serial, VNC, SPICE, …)
#5: quality and testing (note that the Xen Project OSSTest harness is running some limited libvirt tests)
#6: usability and bugs (e.g. default networking types, iSCSI support, error reporting and handling is inconsistent)

For OpenStack in particular, gaps are listed in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorSupportMatrix - Some of these would probably go away once issues / gaps above are fixed. Generally the gap does not look huge (with the exception of some gaps such as Live Migration) but are a collection of smaller issues that add up.

Lars: raised the question on whether there is scope to include xen+libvirt+openstack testing into automated Xen Project Test Framework
Don: not against it - but need to check bandwidth and required capacity (how many machines)
Konrad: thinks this is a great idea
James: thinks it is a good idea

NEW: {{Action|Lars}} Find out capacity and machine needs. Note: see https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/libvirt+xen_testing – waiting for info from SUSE

=== Open ===

{{Action|Lars}} Check with Brian whether there any accounting constraints carrying over approved budget into following year {{Tick}}

NEW: {{Action|Brian}} Send account overview and information to Lars

=== Unknown ===

{{Action|Sarah}} Sarah to send questions to Michelle {{Tick}}

{{Action|Michelle from Verizon}} Follow up internally within Verizon as to who the right person to participate in Xen Project positioning survey for Analyst meeting {{Tick}} 

NEW: {{Action|Sarah}} Sarah to ring Kevin Clark


=== Propose to Close ===

{{Action|All}} vendors interested in participating in Xen Project positioning survey for Analyst meeting to get back to Sarah {{Tick}}

Interviews conducted with AMD, Cavium, Citrix, Intel, Oracle, Rackspace
Interviews open: ARM (Lars followed up with Phillipe), Verizon

=== Closed ===

{{Action|Sarah}} Send list of questions for Xen Project positioning to list

{{Action|Lars}} Come up with a better proposal – see “Xen Project Provisional Budget for 2014 v4 - May20 Update.xls” 

== Face-2-face meeting on August 20th ==

Who would attend? Confirmations so far: Citrix (Lars, James before 3PM, Mark), Google (Guido), Intel (Don Dugger), Oracle (Daniel, Konrad depending on timing)

Adding:  Larry, Michelle, Brian, Sarah
Maybe: Ian, Antony

What’s the best time? AM (conflicts with Dev Meeting) or PM – PM will make dialling in people from Asia (Intel) and Europe (ARM)

Agreement on early PM (12:00 - 14:00 ish)

==  Approvals - Budget and Trademark Related  ==

=== Board meeting and Developer Meeting ===
<pre>
Required: USD $1350 for room and speaker phone
See line #6 of attached budget
Proposal to use “2014.1e Face-2-face meetings” of which there are USD $2000 remaining
</pre>
Agreed

=== Travel Stipend for Washington University in St. Louis to speak at the summit (attached updated budget spreadsheet) ===
Topic up-streaming Real-Time support into the Hypervisor
Required: USD $1250 for hotel and flights
See line #24 of attached budget
Proposal to use “2014.5e Slush Fund for Xen Project Developer Events” of which there are USD $ 2800 remaining

Agreed

=== ARM Xen Project Sticker ===
ARM are looking at creating some stickers to hand out at events. As this is trademark related (AB domain) and we have not had a precedent we need to discuss

 

Agreed

=== Xen Project XAPI subproject logo ===

The Xen Project XAPI subproject would like a visual identity for the XAPI project for their 2.0 release, web pages, etc. 
After a community discussion we came up with the following mock-up 
 
Again, this needs to be discussed as it is trademark related and we have no precedence

Agreed, if there is no trademark issue

 

Don: Doesn't see an issue
Mark: Raised the question whether this would dilute the Xen project brand

NEW: {{Action|Brian}} check with LF legal whether this would dilute the strength of the Xen Project TM {{Done}} There is no issue, however Citrix needs to confirm that this would not cause an issue for the Citrix Xen mark

NEW: {{Action|Lars}} follow up with Citrix legal

=== Xen Project Style Guide (attached – taken Matt Wilsons and Richard Phelan’s feedback into account) ===
See attached PDF document

Agreed

=== What trademark related items do I need to get approval for in future? ===

Don: yes
Brian: style guide contains elements related to the logo (may help the volume)

Agreement: run past AB for now and observe whether the volume increases and then update style guide

NEW: {{Action|Brian}} send example to Lars {{Tick}}

OpenMAMA: http://www.openmama.org/what-is-openmama/additional/style-guide
Tizen: https://www.tizen.org/about/tizen-brand-guidelines
OpenDaylight: http://www.opendaylight.org/sites/www.opendaylight.org/files/pages/pdfs/opendaylight_brand_identity_guidelines.pdf

===  Updates ===
==== Analyst Meeting and Media (Sarah) ====

Sarah: Analyst Meeting 
* Completed 7 AB member interviews 
* Brian reviewing  (25 pages) a deck and send it out after initial review
* Try and arrange analyst meeting before OSCON (in person and phone)
* Need to line up spokespeople

NEW: {{Action|Sarah}} Send out deck and follow-up

Sarah: LinuxCon / Media
* Xen Dev Summit : take advantage of board members being present ... a series of short video interviews. Can use for pitching to reporters, can use on website 
* Can also be written testimonials

NEW: {{Action|All}} get back to Sarah

Larry: it's a continual emphasize on the messaging

Lars: the interviewing series was an extremely good exercise, as it is helping to get Xen Project messaging in place

==== Upcoming releases (Lars) ====
* Mirage OS 2.0 (date for OSCON proposed, July 20-24)

NEW: {{Action|Sarah}} follow up with Amir and Anil (arrange a call) {{Tick}}

* XAPI 2.0 (date TBD)

NEW: {{Action|Lars}} follow up on dates

==== Update on Subproject Proposals (Lars) ====
* http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Windows_PV_Drivers_Incubation_Project_Proposal (approved by community)
* http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Embedded_and_Automotive_PV_Drivers_Project_Proposal (drafted, some issues need resolving)
* Next: Proposal to Archive Xen on ARM subproject and PVOPS subproject on the grounds that these have achieved their project goal to establish major new functionality in the hypervisor and Linux and are thus completed

Sarah: interesting from a PR perspective, could have a momentum press release
Larry: good for Messaging and Celebrating progress
Brian: need to own that message to avoid confusion

==== Test Framework WG (Lars) ====
* Have two initial COLO and admin-support costing proposals, but need to create power budget to refine costs  
* Actions to create power budget, refine two COLO costing proposals and spec out procurement proposals for Hardware

==== COLO & Remus ====
Lars working with Intel, Fujitsu and maintainers on unblocking Remus and COLO High Availability patches for Xen Project hypervisor 4.5 which have been stuck due to review bottlenecks

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